What Marvel’s Thunderbolts* Can Learn From DC’s Suicide Squad Movies

What Marvel's Thunderbolts* Can Learn From DC's Suicide Squad Movies

As a seasoned gamer and comic book enthusiast with over two decades of experience under my belt, I can’t help but feel a mix of excitement and anticipation as Marvel Studios prepares to unleash their take on the Thunderbolts. Having grown up reading both Marvel and DC comics, I’ve always been fascinated by the gritty, morally ambiguous nature of teams like Suicide Squad and the Thunderbolts.


The Marvel movie “Thunderbolts” has been drawing comparisons to DC’s Suicide Squad films, and rightfully so. Both stories revolve around unconventional agents being manipulated or forced to perform dangerous missions by enigmatic government officials. In “Thunderbolts”, Julia Louis-Dreyfus’ character Valentina Allegra de Fontaine serves a role similar to Viola Davis’ Amanda Waller in the DC universe, suggesting she views the Thunderbolts team much like how Waller sees Task Force X.

DC has attempted to bring ‘Suicide Squad’ to life on the big screen twice, first with David Ayer’s ‘Suicide Squad’ in 2016, followed by James Gunn’s ‘The Suicide Squad’ in 2021. While these films garnered some positive responses, they didn’t quite reach the level of acclaim that Marvel Studios and Disney aspire for with their upcoming film, ‘Thunderbolts’.

Regardless of how it pans out, Thunderbolts is likely to draw comparisons with Suicide Squad throughout its cinematic journey. With this in mind, what insights could Marvel Studios glean from the positive, negative, and less-than-ideal aspects of DC’s Suicide Squad films?

What Marvel's Thunderbolts* Can Learn From DC's Suicide Squad Movies

In both versions of the DC Suicide Squad movies, they seem to dawdle before finally getting down to business. Ayer’s movie is notorious for its repetitive introductions and reintroductions of main characters; Gunn’s movie played a deliberate trick, introducing an entire team of false protagonists only to have them killed off in the opening scenes.

Marvel benefits significantly from the fact that all the characters in Thunderbolts have previously been featured in other MCU productions, meaning director Jake Schreier won’t need to invest extensive time setting up individual character introductions or establishing their team dynamic since they are already known entities. Instead, he can focus more on getting them involved in a mission right away.

2. It’s a pity that Suicide Squad doesn’t often depict its superpowered team members engaging in intense battles against each other. While there have been skirmishes, such as Peacemaker killing Rick Flag Jr., the Thunderbolts trailer offers a tantalizing glimpse of what it would look like to watch Yelena/Black Widow II (Florence Pugh), John Walker/US Agent (Wyatt Russell), Ava Starr/Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen), and Antonia Dreykov/Taskmaster (Olga Kurylenko) clash, each using their unique abilities and talents. With Marvel’s Superman, The Sentry (Lewis Pullman) joining the fray, the internal conflicts within the Thunderbolts could rival any epic comic book movie battle against computer-generated adversaries.

3. The charm of Thunderbolts lies in its cast of characters, which includes established fan favorites from the MCU like Sebastian Stan’s Bucky, as well as characters that fans have longed to see more of, develop further, or see given a second chance, such as Red Guardian, Ghost, and Taskmaster.

After Thunderbolts, neither of those character types are necessarily crucial for the ongoing future of the MCU. Stan Lee and Pugh might reasonably be running low on energy after their long tenure in the franchise, as their careers have expanded into other avenues. Characters like US Agent (Russell), Ghost (John-Kamen), Taskmaster (Kurylenko), and Red Guardian (David Harbour) are fortunate to have roles in this Thunderbolts movie; they may not necessarily have significant roles in the franchise going forward, as their futures aren’t guaranteed.

What Marvel's Thunderbolts* Can Learn From DC's Suicide Squad Movies

Everyone in the Thunderbolts team could potentially meet their end, but the demise of certain characters like Bucky and Yelena might hit fans hard. In contrast, the Suicide Squad from DC Comics had characters who were either believed to be invincible (Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn) or unimportant to the audience (El Diablo, Killer Croc, Slipknot, Captain Boomerang, Polka-Dot Man). If Marvel aims to set Thunderbolts apart from Suicide Squad, killing off major characters could be an effective approach.

Marvel’s Thunderbolts* has a release date of May 2, 2025.

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2024-09-30 22:10