Does Joker: Folie à Deux Finally Reveal the True Origin of Heath Ledger’s Joker?

Does Joker: Folie à Deux Finally Reveal the True Origin of Heath Ledger's Joker?

As a longtime Batman enthusiast who’s watched every iteration of the Dark Knight and his nemesis, Joker, I can confidently say that “Joker: Folie à Deux” certainly adds an intriguing twist to the Joker mythos. The ending scene, in particular, leaves room for interpretation and speculation, especially with the young inmate resembling a young Heath Ledger – adding fuel to the fire of theories about the origin of the iconic Joker portrayed by Ledger in “The Dark Knight.


The movie titled “Joker: Madness and More” is currently playing in cinemas, and it’s sparking quite a conversation among viewers, not all of it positive. Similar to its predecessor, the second Joker film has been creating quite a stir. The ending of Joker 2 conclusively wraps up the story of Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix), yet it also suggests that the influence of “The Joker” transcends a single individual. Interestingly, there’s a widely discussed theory suggesting that Joker: Madness and More concludes with a specific tribute that delves into one of the most intriguing unresolved questions in the Joker character’s lore.

Could you please explain where Heath Ledger’s character as The Joker in Christopher Nolan’s movie sequel to Batman Begins, titled The Dark Knight, truly came from?

But is that accurate?

Does Joker 2 Finally Reveal the True Origin of Heath Ledger’s Joker?

Does Joker: Folie à Deux Finally Reveal the True Origin of Heath Ledger's Joker?

In the closing moments of Joker: Folie ? Deux, Arthur Fleck (portrayed by Joaquin Phoenix) finds himself back in Arkham Asylum, having been found guilty for the violent acts he committed in the first movie and also managing to escape from custody after a group of Joker imitators bombed the courtroom. In the trial, Arthur openly denounced his Joker persona, accepting responsibility for the murders he had committed and acknowledging that “Joker” was merely a coping mechanism he created to deal with the aftermath of his actions. Regrettably, this realization comes too late. Upon being summoned to the visiting rooms, Arthur is trailed by a younger inmate who has been following him throughout the film: this young man then invites Arthur to hear a joke, culminating in him repeating the Joker’s famous catchphrase “You get what you deserve!” as he fatally stabs Arthur. As the camera focuses on Arthur lying on the floor, dying, the young inmate can be seen laughing hysterically while using the knife to carve a grin onto his own face.

It’s hard to ignore the resemblance of the young inmate actor (Connor Storrie) to a younger Heath Ledger, leading us to wonder if much of Joker 2 is indeed a clever trick by director Todd Phillips at the expense of the audience. It seems clear that Phillips doesn’t view the Joker as a pop-culture icon to be celebrated, nor does he necessarily agree with all the praise his own Joker movie received. However, he understands that the acclaim won’t cease. The final joke in this scene might be that fans of DC are now trying to connect these Joker films to The Dark Knight, or suggesting that Arthur Fleck was a prototype for the “real Joker” of Batman lore, or that it’s all part of the setup for the DC Studios Batman Universe, or Matt Reeves’ The Batman Universe. Phillips is aware that various rumors and theories will arise from small moments in minor characters.

So does Joker: Folie ? Deux really reveal the origin of Heath Ledger’s Joker? Sure. Why not. That theory is about as good as any Joker origin story out there, in all its messy continuity (see also: DC’s The Three Jokers).

Joker 2 is playing in theaters.

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2024-10-04 22:41