John Lithgow turned down playing “ghastly threat” Donald Trump several times

As a seasoned film enthusiast who has witnessed the evolution of cinematic art since the dawn of time (or at least since the 1950s), I must say that the gripping political thriller, Conclave, has certainly piqued my interest. John Lithgow, a man whose acting prowess transcends generations, plays the intriguing Cardinal Tremblay with an intensity that leaves one questioning the very nature of politics and ambition.

The upcoming movie titled “Conclave” is a suspenseful political drama unfolding within the Vatican, adapted from Robert Harris’s popular novel. John Lithgow, recognized for his role in the 90s sitcom “3rd Rock from the Sun,” portrays Cardinal Tremblay, a cunning contender among several power-seeking individuals vying to become the next Pope.

Is the fact that Conclave delves into political maneuverings what initially drew you to it?

I agree! What’s fascinating is that it deals with political behavior. It’s rare to find politics depicted in such an unusual backdrop. Remarkably, this narrative mirrors every political system by splitting into liberal and conservative factions, akin to left and right wings. With all the politics swirling around today, it’s intriguing to consider the political dynamics within the Vatican, a subject that often escapes our attention.

What is your own relationship with religion?

I don’t practice organized religion, but I come from families who were devout churchgoers. Religion didn’t take root in me, however, I have my own sense of right and wrong and strive to live honorably. I appreciate religious art, particularly the works of Bach and Mozart, and certain aspects of religious holidays touch me profoundly.

Is Cardinal Tremblay portrayed as a crafty, inconsistent figure in your work. Was there any specific person you drew inspiration from to play this role?

I delved into the hidden aspects of myself. To me, the movie revolves around the struggle between belief and drive. I view myself as a dedicated artist, yet I’m not immune to the allure of financial gain in my next opportunity. Currently, I’m engaged in theatre work in London, performing in a remarkable play titled Giant (playing Roald Dahl). However, I’m essentially spending money to take on this role. Each evening, I commute to the theatre via the London bus. And yet, it’s my most cherished job to date. I’m truly enjoying it! Yet, rest assured, the next opportunity will surely tempt me with the prospect of earning a substantial amount of money.

In a more casual and straightforward manner, the question could be rephrased as follows: “During Trump’s first term, you penned satirical poems. What worries you the most if he were to regain the presidency?

I strongly believe that Donald Trump poses a dreadful danger to the United States. His term as president has caused significant harm to our nation. Over the past year, I’ve been working in Italy, New Zealand, Amsterdam, and London, and people everywhere have been closely following our election with immense concern. They were terrified during the process.

Would you ever consider playing Trump on screen?

On several occasions, I’ve been tasked with the job, but my enthusiasm was lacking. I believe the best approach in dealing with him is through an over-the-top portrayal of his character. Additionally, I feel that some space between us would be beneficial. Let’s give it a few years!

Do you think there is a limit to satire with a figure like Trump?

Indeed, I believe consistently mocking him is essential, as it seems to irritate him significantly. However, it’s challenging because in today’s political climate, it’s tough to sway opinions and combat demagoguery, dishonesty, and a lack of moral compass or regret.

Could it be that your passion for the arts, as shown by your training in acting in London, portraying Winston Churchill in ‘The Crown’, and participating in ‘Celebrity Bake Off’, stems from a deep-rooted love for all things British?

Absolutely! I was brought up in a unique way. My father organized Shakespeare festivals in Ohio, so I’m a blend of Anglophile and American country bumpkin. Many people often mistake me for English, but even when I play an English character, I still need my dialect coach to correct my vowel sounds. When I took on the role of Churchill, I had serious reservations. However, the cast welcomed me. They believed in me more than I did myself.

You turned down the role of Frasier in Cheers. Do you ever think about what might have been?

Occasionally, during certain moments, I find myself reflecting on my initial days in Hollywood, a time when I’d earned two Academy Award nominations within just two years. An opportunity arose to star in a supporting role on Cheers, and after discussion with my agent, we decided to steer clear of episodic TV. I often ponder the paths not taken. However, I harbor very few regrets. One exception is that I did take part in 3rd Rock from the Sun for six years, an unforgettable journey.

Were you anxious about being typecast after 3rd Rock?

Indeed, you’re correct, but fortunately, I didn’t face as many constraints since I embodied an alien striving for humanity. It served as a sort of inherent protection against stereotyping. Following that, I took on the chilling role of the Trinity Killer in Dexter. Needless to say, it was a grim and petrifying performance.

You don’t do as much comedy as you used to. Is that a deliberate decision?

2024-12-02 04:36

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